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--- consolidated:campaignsystem:property [2026/04/07 09:00] – [Cost] johnb
+++ consolidated:campaignsystem:property [2026/08/06 06:42] (current) – johnb
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 There are four ways that you can acquire property -  Renting, Leasing, Buying or Conquering it.
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+This is one of three pages that need combining, into one simple system. \\
+https://rp.baileymail.net/doku.php?id=consolidated:hann_empire:regions:westland:property_ownership \\
+https://rp.baileymail.net/doku.php?id=pathfinder:campaignsystemii:start \\</color>
+<color #22b14c>This is the  page they get combined into</color> -  https://rp.baileymail.net/doku.php?id=consolidated:campaignsystem:start
 ===== Renting =====
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 You can rent land, a building, or just one room within a building.
-==== Cost ====
+==== Why? ====
-Base rent will be calculated by counting the number of 5' squares in the property (over all floors) and multiplying that by the rate shown on the following table.  However, prices will vary slightly.  If a property is in demand, or desirable for some other reason, it will be more expensive -  if it is in poor repair, it might be cheaper.
+  * When you are starting a business -  you earn less from the business, BUT you don't have the same sort of up front costs.
+  * Housing:  Housing costs are the same for 'owned' and rented property (see Cost of Living)  However, some types of property are never up for rent.
+  * Status:  Renting is the lowest status, you might want to move away from it, as you progress in levels.
+==== Cost of Renting ====
+<color #ed1c24>Need to rework this whole section on rent</color>
+Base rent will be calculated by counting the number of 5' squares in the property (over all floors) and multiplying that by the rate shown on the following table.  However, rents will vary slightly.  If a property is in demand, or desirable for some other reason, it will be more expensive -  if it is in poor repair, it might be cheaper.
 ^  Cost per 5' Square  ||||
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 |Exclusive|  5  |  7.5  |  10  |
-===== Lease: Copyhold =====
-Copyhold applies to the land, rather than the building on it.  For a fee, you get to 'hold' that land, for as long as you pay a small regular payment.   The Monthly payment is significantly lower than renting - although that is offset, by the fee you pay for the Copy Hold in the first place.
-Copyhold is a contract with the Ruling Lord, normally through his administration, to hold a piece of his land as your own.  Importantly, the Copyhold is Heritable (you can pass the Copyhold to an heir when you die) and Saleable (You can sell the Copyhold land), however there is a small fee to transfer the contract, and the new owner must be approved by the administration. There are always clauses saying that the contract will become void if the land is abandoned or the copyholder is convicted of serious crimes.  For Misuse of the land the contract can be declared void, by the Ruling Lord, although compensation is generally given in return.
+===== Common Land =====
-You are responsible for any building on the site.  If there is a building there already, you must pay the cost of the building upfront.  If it is bare land, you will be expected to construct any buildings that you need.  Not using the land, will likely count as 'Misuse' and the Copyhold will be declared void.
+This is how country folk, woodsmen, hunters, trappers etc, survive!  Once you get away from a town  and its hinterland, there aren't shops for everything, trade is limited -  these country folk need to source things for themselves.  This helps.
-==== Suitability Test ====
+  * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_land - for an overview of the original system and how it developed.
+  * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Forest_commoner - The remnants of the system are still in use today.
-The following criteria must be met, before a Copyhold Lease can be Granted, Purchased or Transferred.
+This is a hybrid system, partway between renting the property and owning it.  The Occupant has some rights over the land (as granted to them by their landlord) but still pays a regular rent for the right to live there.  However, properties with Common Rights can be inherited by generation after generation of the same family -  so long as the rent is paid.  Moreover, the property can be sold, so long as the landlord is satisfied with the incoming tenant.  It gives country folk, in particular, some sense of continuity and a place they can call their own.
-  * Purchaser/inheritor is in 'Good Standing' with the law. (Not convicted of a major crime, or a habitual criminal)
+==== Common Rights ====
-  * Fee is paid
-  * And one of the following:
-    * Heir of deceased Copyholder.
-    * Citizen (or higher status)
-    * Journeyman of The Guild
-    * Sergeant recognised by the state military.
-==== Cost ====
+  * **Personal Rights** – Enjoyed by every individual in the community.
+  * Forage.  The right to forage for food, herbs and useful materials around their home.
+  * Estovers. Right to take sufficient wood for the commoner's house or holding; usually limited to smaller trees, bushes (such as gorse) and fallen branches.
-Costs vary significantly, but are based on the footprint of the holding, the number of 5ft squares at ground level.  This includes yards, verges and anything else that might reasonably be classed as part of the property.
+  * **Cottage Rights** – Assigned to certain properties, and are granted to the residents of that property.  They are brought and sold as part of the property.  Not every property has every one of the rights listed, not in the same quantity  Pasturage, Coppice, Reedbed might vary).  These come with minor responsibilities to help maintain and protect the area (ie maintain paths, bridges, other common infrastructure, help chase away intruders / wild animals)
+  * Minor Pasture. The most widespread right.  Right to pasture Goats, under the control of a goatherd.  (generally, two goats)
+  * Piscary. Right to fish, take waterfowl and build fish traps.
+  * Reedage – the right to establish and maintain a bed to produce thatching and basketry reeds.
+  * Small Game  (size tiny  - rabbits, squirrels, game birds,)
+  * Coppice – the right to create a single coppice to produce wattle, hurdle and basketry purposes.
+  * Coastal – the right to establish fish traps, oyster beds and other similar constructions between the high and low water lines.
-Initial contract come from The Administration, and the cost varies, according to the location and purpose of the land.  If you want land in areas that the administration has marked for development, the fees are very low.  If you want land in the best part of the city, fees will be very high.  Fees can be reduced (sometimes even waived), as a reward for service to the crown / administration / rulers etc.  Cost for purchasing a Copyhold Lease from character (not the administration)  will vary according to the ++sellers status|(Needs Money; Likes/Dislikes you; Moving out of town;Cashing in)++   -  but will be similar to the base costs charged by the administration.
+==== Manorial Rights ====
-**__Based on the Footprint of the building as defined in the contract.__**
+Part of the Common Land system, The Lord of the Manor is minor countryside aristocrat, who oversees small communities  set within the common land.  A similar role was common through Europe, and alternate tiles include: Village Squire, Laird, Seigneur, Edler, Vavasour and Nobile.
+  * **Manorial Rights** - These come with responsibilities to help maintain and protect the area and be responsible for a small local community.  The Lord of the Manor leads the community, protects them personally, and maintains a small Retinue of armed guards for defence.  (see below).
+  * Cottage Rights, as per tenants.
+  * Mast or pannage. Right to turn out pigs for a period in autumn to eat mast (beech mast, acorns and other nuts).
+  * Great Pasture. Right to pasture cattle, horses, sheep or other animals on the common land.
+  * Medium Game  (size Medium  - gotta be some  😊 )
+  * Fortification  (often restricted to a wooden defensive wall)
+  * Settlement -  the right to offer Cottager Rights to tenants.  (often restricted to 2 or 3 cottages)
+++++Note: Armed Retinue|  https://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment/goods-and-services/hirelings-servants-services/  =  Typical equipment for a guard or mercenary warrior is studded leather armor and a club, shortsword, or shortspear. Most guards are off-duty soldiers or city watchmen, though some are unskilled laborers with a talent for fighting.
+A lord of the manor, who turns out with a heavy X-Bow, flanked by a pair of thugs armed with clubs -  just about meets this description.++++
-  * **Development Area:** 1gp per 5' square of the footprint, and a commitment to build an economically viable business inside five years.  Somehow, the Copyholder needs to find the money to build the business and to feed themselves until they get the business established. The 'Suitability Criteria' can be relaxed significantly for anyone who demonstrates the grit and ingenuity to succeed.  It gets quite a few family owned farms and businesses built.
-  * **In Town:**  50x the 'Renting Costs per district' shown above -  roughly four years rent.  Plus the value of any building on the site.
-  * **In the Hinterlands:**  In country areas, protected by patrols from the Town Guards.  Close to town 50x Renting costs for a Middling District, further out from town, but not in a development area, 25x Renting costs for a Poor District.
-  * **Transfer Fees:**  Per square of the footprint - Purchase: 2sp, Inheritance: 1sp.
-  * **Compensation for Void:** half of the base land fee plus half of any building values.
 ===== Freehold =====
-Yep!
+===== Dominus =====
+Freehold land, with permission to build a community (probably limited to village size) with the right to collect (and spend) local taxes.
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+Land claimed by feat of arms.