Differences

This shows you the differences between two versions of the page.

--- pathfinder:social_guidelines:military_ranks [2025/06/03 09:21] – [Unit Officers] johnb
+++ pathfinder:social_guidelines:military_ranks [2025/06/13 19:02] (current) – johnb
@@ Line 42: / Line 42: @@
-A Lieutenant is generally the same level as the troops they command, but of a suitable PC (generally melee) class.  A lieutenant will expect to earn about 4x what their men earn.
+A Lieutenant is generally the same level as the troops they command, but of a suitable PC (generally melee) class.  A lieutenant will expect to earn about ++4gp per day|(Less deductions for food and accommodation)++.
-<color #ed1c24>Rewrite these examples for PC classes</color>
 ++++  Examples - |
-**Watch Officer:** In charge of a mixed unit of Watchmen and Guards.  In a small town might be the most senior officer and report directly to the Mayor, in a large town they might be the ‘Duty Officer’ , in a large city might be the duty officer for one district.  Etc.
-Lieutenant:  Warrior 3 / Expert 1:
+All sorts of classes might work, depending on build and environment
-Studded Leather Armour: Light Mace, Dagger.
-Expects to earn 16-20 gp a month.\\
+  * Fighter -  default for most things, including Marines
-**Outpost Commander** In charge of a Rural Outpost and a couple of nearby Watch Towers but reports to the local Commander.
+  * Ranger -  Scouts, Skirmishers, light cavalry, mercenaries, Town Guard(Urban Ranger Archetype)
-Lieutenant:  Warrior 3 / Aristocrat 1:
+  * Cavalier - Cavalry
-Breast Plate: Short Sword, Dagger.
+  * Rogue - Scouts, Skirmishers, light cavalry, mercenaries, Town Guard   (set a thief ...), Navy
-Expects to earn 16-20 gp a month.\\
+  * Bard - (all those skills) Mercenaries, Town Guard, Navy,
- **Naval Officer: ** A Naval Lt in charge of a landing party will be tasked with securing an area of beach and leading their troops inland.  S/he may have a crew of  5xSeamen and 10xMarines, under their command.
-Lieutenant: Expert 3 / Aristocrat 1:
+Other classes will be rarer -  but could work, depending on circumstances.
-Studded Leather Armour: Short Sword.
-Expects to earn 22-26 gp a month.
 ++++
@@ Line 63: / Line 63: @@
 ===== Unit Commanders =====
+Unit commanders are in charge of something - this could be a ship, stronghold, guard unit, barracks, small base or something else where independent thought and command ability is required. They have the same skills/build a lieutenant - but with extra levels of Aristocrat.
-//Lieutenant Commander:// A Lt Cdr is a Senior Lieutenant who can command up to three Lieutenants, and has a small command group led by an Ensign, they are designated by 2 solid bars topped by a broken bar.  A Lt Commander's Staff Section could include an Ensign, Batman (personal servant), Messenger, Chaplain and secretary.  A Lt Commander might be responsible for a Rural Fort, a small vessel independently or oversee a sub-command for a captain.  They are not, generally, responsible for more than, about, 50 troops.
+//Lieutenant Commander:// A Lt Cdr is a Senior Lieutenant who can command up to three Lieutenants, and has a small command group led by an Ensign, they are designated by 2 solid bars topped by a broken bar.  A Lt Commander's Staff Section could include an Ensign, Batman (personal servant), Messenger, Chaplain and secretary.  A Lt Commander might be responsible for a Rural Fort, a small vessel  or oversee a sub-command for a captain.  They are not, generally, responsible for more than, about, 50 troops.  +1 Aristocrat
-//Commander:// A commander is generally in charge of something significant, takes  on, a lot of responsibility and can command up to four Lieutenants, as well as their own troops,  a HQ Unit (under a sergeant) and a command group (under an Ensign).  They are designated by three solid bar.  A Commander's Staff Section could include an Ensign, Batman (personal servant), Messengers, personal guards and a secretary or two.  They can command up to 100 troops, and might command a sailing ship, or be responsible for all of a town’s troops, a  castle, or one type troops in a small army.
-They will always be at least one level higher than the highest level lieutenant in their command and often have levels of aristocrat, or PC classes,  in their build.
+//Commander:// A commander is generally in charge of something significant, takes  on, a lot of responsibility and can command up to four Lieutenants, as well as their own troops, a HQ Unit (under a sergeant) and a command group (under an Ensign).  They are designated by three solid bar.  A Commander's Staff Section could include an Ensign, Batman (personal servant), Messengers, personal guards and a secretary or two.  They can command up to 100 troops, and might command a sailing ship, or be responsible for all of a town’s troops, a castle, a small port, or one troop type in a small army.  +2 Aristocrat
-//Captain:// A captain (or rarely, a Colonel) is represented by four solid bars and commands all of the troops that come within one company.   The company could be a mercenary company, all the troops of a small nation state, a warship, or just one troop type for a regional army. As well as a personal command this could encompass the troops of up to five Commanders  or up to 500 troop.  However, not many Captains have  anywhere near that many troops under their command - Many mercenary Companies are much smaller and their 'Captain' might only have the same skills and prestige as a Lt Cdr.
+//Captain:// A captain (or rarely, a Colonel) is represented by four solid bars and commands all the troops that come within one company.   The company could be a mercenary company, all the troops of a small nation state, a warship, or just one troop type for a regional army. As well as a personal command, this could encompass the troops of up to five Commanders or up to 500 troop.  However, not many Captains have anywhere near that many troops under their command - Many mercenary Companies are much smaller and their 'Captain' might only have the same skills and prestige as a Lt Cdr.  +3 Aristocrat
 ------
@@ Line 77: / Line 75: @@
 ===== Command Officers =====
-**Command Officers**  Such as generals, captains general, commodores and admirals are rare, and only the largest nations use them, they wear stars to signify their rank..  It takes a significant nation to have more than one General or Admiral (2*) in charge of their troops.  However, when smaller armies come together, one of the captain’s is often 'promoted' to the position of Captain-General, in Navies a small independent flotilla might be commanded by a Commodore – and both of these (1*) ‘ranks’ are often temporary in nature.  .  In extreme cases, when large armies, each with their own general, come together -  a Lord General (3*) might be appointed.
+**Command Officers**  Such as generals, captains general, commodores and admirals are rare, and only the largest nations use them, they wear stars to signify their rank.  This is often a political appointment, from a well established noble family, who can oversee the political implications.  It takes a significant nation to have more than one General or Admiral (2*) in charge of their troops.  However, when smaller armies come together (or there is a serious conflict), one  (or more) senior captains will be 'promoted' to the position of Captain-General, in Navies a small independent flotilla might be commanded by a Commodore –  these (1*) ‘ranks’ are often temporary in nature, and they expect to revert to the original rank, and role, at the end of the duty.  In extreme cases, when large armies, each with their own general, come together -  a Lord General (3*) might be appointed.