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--- pathfinder:social_guidelines:ranks_and_titles [2025/06/13 07:53] – johnb
+++ pathfinder:social_guidelines:ranks_and_titles [2025/08/09 05:12] (current) – [Notes] johnb
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 ====== Ranks and Titles ======
-A basic analysis of different ranks and titles - and a rough comparison of status and influence.  However, there can be quite a lot variation.  Some people might have more than one title and may accumulate the 'status' from each.  Others might just have a larger than normal army at their command or have cornered the market in an important commodity.  The table is a guideline rather than absolute.
+A basic analysis of different ranks and titles - and a rough comparison of status and influence.  However, there can be quite a lot of variation.  Some people might have more than one title and may accumulate the 'status' from each.  Others might just have a larger than normal army at their command or have cornered the market in an important commodity.  The table is a guideline rather than absolute.
 ===== Sovereign Titles =====
-**Use this table for the Stolen Lands (Midmarch) game**
+The meaning of Sovereign has, perhaps, been slightly extended.  Emperors, Kings, Dukes, Princes and Sovereign Lords have an inalienable right to rule a land that was taken by conquest, settlement or inheritance. A Chieftain rules a //Tribe or Nation// of people, and cannot be deposed by anyone except for the members of their nation/tribe.   A Primate gives direction to all followers of a particular deity, and can only be replaced with the blessing of that deity.
+Sovereign Titles are all passed down through families or Organizations  (Including Elections) - or may be seized by conquest.
 ^  ^  Sovereign Titles  ^^  ||
 ^Status^ ^Hann ^ Notes^ Other|
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 |55| |King| Appoints and Rules Counts | |
 | 40|  | Duke|City + Appoints and Rules Barons | |
-| 30|  | Prince|City + Appoints and Rules Lords | |
+| 30|  | Prince \\ Lord Mayor|City + Appoints and Rules Lords \\ Rules an **independent** City State | |
-| 25|  | Chieftain \\ Primate \\ Sovereign Lord|Leads a Native People (eg Celtic Clan) \\  Leads all the followers of a faith \\ Rules a minor land area | |
+| 25|  | Chieftain \\ Primate \\ Sovereign Lord |Leads a Native People (eg Celtic Clan) \\  Leads all the followers of a faith \\ Rules a minor land area \\ | |
+===== Aristocratic Ranks and Titles =====
+^Status^ ^Hereditary^Chivalric Order^ ^Administration^Military^Religious|
+^ ^  ^ Nobles  | These great nobles have a great deal of autonomy and can influence rulers. |||||
+| 20|  | Count| | | | | |
+| 15|  | | | | Viscount| General | |
+| 12|  | Baron| | | | | |
+^ ^  ^ Aristocrat | The Lesser Nobles have local influence|||||
+| 10|  | | | | Governor | Captain General| Arch-Bishop  |
+| 9|  | Lord| Knight-Captain| | Lord Mayor | |
+| 7|  | Dominus| Knight-Commander| |  | Captain| Bishop|
+| 6|  | Nobile | Knight-Lieutenant | | Lord Advisor| Commander| |
+===== Other Ranks and Titles =====
-^ ^ ^  National Titles  ^^ ^  |||||
+^ ^  ^ Gentle| Middle Classes - the junction between the upper classes and the workers|||||||
-^Status^ ^Hereditary^Chivalric Order^ ^Administration^Military^Religious^Academic^Guild|
+| 4|  | Laird| Knight| | Mayor | Lt Commander| High-Priest / Abbot| Chancellor |Guild Master |
-^ ^  ^ Nobles  ^ These great nobles (Peers of the realm) have a great deal of autonomy and can influence rulers. |||||||
+| 3|  | | Officer|  |Reeve / Warden|Lieutenant | Priest / Prior|  | |
-| 20|  | Count| | | | | | | |
+| 2|  | | | | Town Advisor | Sergeant|Chaplain  | Principal | Master|
-| 15|  | | | | Viscount| General | | | |
+^ ^  ^ Other | Very minor local influence |||||||
-| 12|  | Baron| | | | | | | |
+| 1|  | | Deputy| | Elder | Corporal | Sub-Prior| Teacher| Guildsman|
-^ ^  ^ Aristocrat ^ The Lesser Nobles have local influence|||||||
-| 10|  | | | | Governor | Captain General| Arch-Bishop  | |
-| 9|  | Lord| Knight-Captain| | Lord Mayor | |   | |
-| 7|  | Dominus| Knight-Commander| |  | Captain| Bishop|  |  |
-| 6|  | Nobile | Knight-Lieutenant | | Lord Advisor| | |Chancellor |Guild Master |
-^ ^  ^ Gentile^ Middle Classes - the junction between the upper classes and the workers|||||||
-| 4|  | Laird| Knight| | Mayor | Commander| High-Priest / Abbot| Principal | Master|
-| 3|  | | Member| | |Lt Commander | Priest / Prior|  | |
-| 2|  | | Officer| | Town Advisor | Lieutenant|Chaplain  | | |
-^ ^  ^ Other ||||||||
-| 1|  | | Deputy| | Reeve | Sergeant | Sub-Prior| Teacher| Guildsman|
 ==== Notes ====
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   - Regional Officials. A Viscount is normally the senior Baron in a county, a Governor is the senior Aristocrat (Dominus or Lord) in a region.
   - City Officials.  Lord Advisors might be treasurer, councillor, marshal etc. The Lord Mayor of a large **independent** City (such as Restov) will have the same levels of influence as a governor or Lord Mayor of an Independent Metropolis (such as New Steven) has the same influence as a Viscount.
-  - Nobile. Alongside Knight-Lieutenant and Lord-Advisor, this is the lowest rank entitled to the title //Lord//.  Nobile is the least defined of all ranks, it doesn't come with land or responsibilities, it is often a lifetime 'courtesy' title/rank for retired Lord Advisors/Mayors/Captains/Bishops etc. However, in some cases it can be hereditary ...  (used when you want someone to be called Lord Xxxx, and you aren't sure why.
+  - Nobile. Alongside Knight-Lieutenant and Lord-Advisor, this is the lowest rank entitled to the title //Lord//.  Nobile is the least defined of all ranks, it doesn't come with land or responsibilities, it is generally awarded for a significant contribution to society, often financial.   However, it can also be  lifetime 'courtesy' title/rank for retired Lord Advisors/Mayors/Captains/Bishops etc.
   - Town Officials.  Advisors might be treasurer, councillor, marshal etc.
   - Reeve.  Someone appointed to manage a village.