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--- consolidated:building:npcs:rationale [2025/07/25 11:17] – johnb
+++ consolidated:building:npcs:rationale [2025/07/25 11:26] (current) – [Live-in Expenses] johnb
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   * However, forts, and most other military buildings, assume that the guards (and soldiers etc) live in, with bunk rooms, common rooms and kitchens available for their use.  So, it would be reasonable to deduct their living expenses from the wages paid.
-==== Live-in Expenses ====
+==== Warrior wages ====
-  * The Downtime rules: bunk rooms can earn up to 1.8gp per day – for 10 people – or 1.8sp per person per day.
-  * Equipment: Hirelings, Servants & Services: sleeping on the common room floor of an inn costs 2sp per night.  If you get a ‘raised, heated floor, the use of a blanket and a pillow’, it costs 5sp/night,
-  * Equipment: Adventuring Gear: a poor meal in a tavern is 1sp - and you would be pushed to eat for a day, buying food at a market, for less than that. While an average meal is 3gp.
-Assuming that a bunk is better than just ‘sleeping on the common room floor’, and the kitchen serves better than poor food, then board and lodging is worth more than an untrained commoner could reasonably expect to earn in a day.  Whatever they are paid as a day rate, is a bonus.
-Now to extrapolate that to guards and soldiers.
 Hirelings has Trained Hirelings, including mercenary warriors, at 3sp/day minimum, and The Contingency Section includes this table.
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 So we could say that the Harmless rate is the minimum 3sp/day mentioned earlier and that a guard’s duties are ‘safe’, while a soldier’s duties are liable to be questionable, at best..  That gives
-Warrior1 Guard = 3sp/day– that’s OK
-Warrior3 Guard = 27sp/day– that’s not OK
-Warrior1 Soldier – 6sp/day – that’s OK
-Warror3 soldier = 54sp/day – that’s not OK
-Which makes higher level troops very, very expensive!  That really doesn’t work properly at higher levels.  From the Downtime Manager’s page -  a Lieutenant (the officer who will lead them into battle) earns 4gp/ day.  If I change ‘Level squared’ to ‘Level’, I get …
-Warrior1 Guard = 3sp/day –
+  * Warrior1 Guard = 3sp/day– that’s OK
-Warrior3 Guard = 9sp/day – roughly the same as a doctor  - that’s OK
+  * Warrior3 Guard = 27sp/day– that’s not OK
-Warrior1 Soldier = 6sp/day –
+  * Warrior1 Soldier – 6sp/day – that’s OK
-Warrior3 soldier = 18sp/day – roughly the same as a Junior Manager -that’s OK
+  * Warror3 soldier = 54sp/day – that’s not OK
-Board and Lodging
-Lodging: A simple calculation based on the average income from accommodation, using the average income calculation, per sleeping space per day, for each type of accommodation.  Inn Floor=2sp, Bunk Room=1.8sp, accommodation=2.2sp, bedroom=6.5sp.
+Which makes higher level troops wat too expensive!  That really doesn’t work properly at higher levels.  From the Downtime Manager’s page -  a Lieutenant (the officer who will lead them into battle) earns 4gp/ day, less that a norman soldier of ther same level.  If I change ‘Level squared’ to ‘Level’, I get …
-Board: assumes that we provide a whole day’s food for the cost of a single meal at an inn.  Poor food=1sp, common food=3sp, good food=5sp.
+  * Warrior1 Guard = 3sp/day –
+  * Warrior3 Guard = 9sp/day – roughly the same as a doctor  - that’s OK
+  * Warrior1 Soldier = 6sp/day –
+  * Warrior3 soldier = 18sp/day – roughly the same as a Junior Manager -that’s OK
+===== Live-in Expenses =====
+  * The Downtime rules: bunk rooms can earn up to 1.8gp per day – for 10 people – or 1.8sp per person per day.
+  * Equipment: Hirelings, Servants & Services: sleeping on the common room floor of an inn costs 2sp per night.  If you get a ‘raised, heated floor, the use of a blanket and a pillow’, it costs 5sp/night,
+  * Equipment: Adventuring Gear: a poor meal in a tavern is 1sp - and you would be pushed to eat for a day, buying food at a market, for less than that. While an average meal is 3gp.
+Assuming that a bunk is better than just ‘sleeping on the common room floor’, and the kitchen serves better than poor food, then board and lodging is going to be worth more than most L1 characters could reasonably expect to earn in a day.  Whatever they are paid as a day rate, is a bonus.
+==== Board and Lodging ====
+**Lodging:** A simple calculation based on the average income from accommodation, using the average income calculation, per sleeping space per day, for each type of accommodation.  Inn Floor=2sp, Bunk Room=1.8sp, accommodation=2.2sp, bedroom=6.5sp.
+**Board:** assumes that we provide a whole day’s food for the cost of a single meal at an inn.  Poor food=1sp, common food=3sp, good food=5sp.
 Let’s say board and lodging, in a bunk room, is worth 4sp per day – that takes the average rent costs (excluding the bedroom), along with average costs for poor and common meals (mass catering is rarely as good as inn food).  However, for anyone lucky enough to get a bedroom to themselves, Board and Lodging is worth a massive 1.3gp per day!
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 That means, if we pay the following day-rate for live in military staff, we should be meeting their expectations.
-Warrior1 Guard = 1sp/day – the equivalent of slightly above minimum.
+  * Warrior1 Guard = 1sp/day – the equivalent of slightly above minimum.
-Warrior3 Guard = 5sp/day
+  * Warrior3 Guard = 5sp/day
-Warrior1 Soldier = 2sp/day
+  * Warrior1 Soldier = 2sp/day
-Warrior3 soldier = 14sp/day
+  * Warrior3 soldier = 14sp/day
 Less skilled staff, who provide similar services, are the Watchman (commoner-1) and the Security Guard (Expert-1).  It makes a nice progression – a bit of training and watchmen progress to security guards, more training and they can become guards …
-Members of the watch are unskilled, so earn a base rate of 1sp/day, far less that the live-in benefits -  so perhaps 4cp as a day rate, on top of their board and lodging.  An expert  guard is not quite up to a warrior guard, so lets say they expect to earn 2sp a day. Which is still less that the live-in benefits – they are better than watchmen, but not as good as proper guards -  so perhaps split the difference.  That gives 7cp/day.
+Members of The Watch are unskilled classed as Unskilled Commoners, however, I have them down for 1.5sp/day, far less than the live-in benefits -  so perhaps 4cp as a day rate, on top of their board and lodging is sufficient - if not generous.  An expert Security Guard is not quite up to a warrior guard, so let's say they expect to earn 2sp a day. Which is still less than the live-in benefits – they are better than watchmen, but not as good as proper guards -  so perhaps split the difference and give them 7cp/day on top of their board adn lodging.